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Re: unauthorized occupants by P-Bone in WNY (NY) on November 18, 2009 @08:36
In relation to the statement above: "I had previously let her know that we did not rent to families with small children in the upstairs unit to avoid any noise tolerance problems (the upstairs unit has wooden floors in the central area where there is more traffic) with the tenants in the lower unit."

This would be considered discriminatory. Just because the unit is upstairs does not make it legal to justify not renting to families with children.

Living in a multi-unit property comes with the possibility of other tenants who make noise. Although you may be able to get a judge to evict them based on noise violations, I highly doubt a judge would support the occupancy rules you have placed on them.

In New York, a tenant is guaranteed the right to move in immediate family, so long as they do not exceed housing code limits.

The best course of action might be to install some large area rugs with thick carpet pad in all the rooms with hardwood floors to dampen the sound being carried. This would be a much cheaper way to go than a discrimination lawsuit.

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Re: unauthorized occupants by Anonymous on November 18, 2009 @12:18 [ Reply ]
I agree with P-Bone. Your entire discussion and lease rules are discriminatory and you can easily be setting yourself up for a huge lawsuit. You cannot deny minor children, although you could have denied the adult child. Since you approved the adult child and placed her on the lease, you must accept the minor.

There is no guarantee that any female tenant would not become pregnant and have a child while living in your unit. That is always a possibility. (It is even a possibility that a male tenant could receive custody of a child who was previously living elsewhere.) You could not evict the tenant for a child since that would violate Fair Housing Law that states you cannot discriminate based on familial status (children or marriage). Unless there are more than 2 people per bedroom + 1 (or other occupancy law) in that unit, you have no grounds to issue any violation notice.

The child is doing no more than making a normal amount of noise for any child of that age. It is not excessive, after hours, or in violation of any law. The downstairs tenant needs to accept that it is a fact of life in a multi-unit building and honor their lease. A child's noise is not a legal reason to break a lease. You need to accept it, or be sued by the upstairs tenants.

The best solution is as P-Bone said. Rugs with thick pads will cut the noise.

And for your own sake, stop telling people you do not accept children. Remove that discriminatory statement from any written rules! Don't issue lease violation notices based on it. Or you could lose everything in a lawsuit, including that property! All it would take is one phone call to the Fair Housing Administration, to HUD, or to any legal aide attorney. This case would be cut and dried if you were dumb enough to write that into your rules and issue a violation notice on it.


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