Re: So Sara, any chance you can cite the LAW for this?

Re: So Sara, any chance you can cite the LAW for this? by Sara (Fl) on February 4, 2012 @18:35

California Health and Safety Code Section 13160-13190/Fire Extinguishers. Maintenance of equipment installed or required by statute or ordinance; Responsibility of owners or occupants: Any portable fire extinguisher that is required to be installed by any statue or ordinance shall be maintained in accordance with the regulations adopted pursuant to section 13160. (a)The owner or occupant shall be responsible of a property in which fire extinguishers are located shall be responsible for the inspection, maintenance and recharging of the fire extinguishers. (b) Maintenance, serving, and recharging shall be performed by concerns licensed by the State Fire Marshall having available the appropriate serving manual, the proper types of tools, recharge materials, lubricants, and manufacturers recommended replacement parts or parts of equal quality. (Cal Courts have found that 'occupants' is related to those instances of spaces that are used for non living areas such as offices, business's, storage facilities, garages etc.) Many cities also have ordinances that require placement of fire extinguishers, as do many Insurance Company's have requirements for rental property's to install them also.

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Hellloo Sara You are missing something IMPORTANT by Anonymous on February 4, 2012 @19:37	[ Reply ]

Please cite this specific reference, as it could greatly vary by city or county. By what you've written, an argument could be made that a kitchen is a space that is used as a non-living area, as no one lives in the kitchen. The bathroom is also a non-living area. People use those rooms but do not live in them. To take this farther, it also begs the question of does each storage facility cell require a fire extinguisher, or just the storage facility as a whole, with each person's individual storage unit not needing a fire extinguisher. QUOTE: (Cal Courts have found that 'occupants' is related to those instances of spaces that are used for non living areas such as offices, business's, storage facilities, garages etc.) ENDQUOTE PLEASE CITE YOUR REFERENCE for those of us who like to check on the veracity of things.

Re: Hellloo Sara You are missing something IMPORTANT by Sara (Fl) on February 4, 2012 @21:06	[ Reply ]

It was listed in the first line...California Health and Safety Code Section 13160-13190/Fire Extinguishers How could you miss that? What is presented is the code for California. Each county and city can and often does add to the requirements, but they must meet the States minimum requirements. Every State has a similar Code that relates to Fire extinguishers. The State Fire Marshall lays down the specifications of what type and their proper placement for fire extinguishers. Your referral to kitchens, bathrooms etc. shows that you did not understand that the Code referred to Property and not a particular location within the property such as you listed. There are many types and sizes of fire extinguishers that require different locations to as to be effective in fighting fires. The locations are often determined by Architects. designers, city planners, Fire Departments, codes, etc. As a Community Development Director for my city, I deal with these requirements very often when approving plans, which in turn must have the Fire Marshall's Seal attached before they reach my office. I'm quite sure that the Fire Marshall's Office here in my State as in other States know what the requirements are for fire extinguishers .

Sara why can't you cite the case law as asked? by Anonymous on February 4, 2012 @22:06	[ Reply ]

QUOTE: Cal Courts have found that 'occupants' is related to those instances of spaces that are used for non living areas such as offices, business's, storage facilities, garages etc. ENDQUOTE Please cite the case law that found "occupants" is related to spaces that are used for non-living areas... That would certainly clear things up for this post, wouldn't it?

Re: Sara why can't you cite the case law as asked?

To Linda....

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Here are details & link--NOTHING about case law

Re: Here are details & link--NOTHING about case law

In conflict with what Sara posted & reread the OP

Re: In conflict with what Sara posted & reread the OP

Re: In conflict with what Sara posted & reread the

Re: So Sara, any chance you can cite the LAW for this? by MrDan (Georgia) on February 5, 2012 @11:48	[ Reply ]

Thank you for bringing up the fact that fire extinguishers are a requirement in many states and cities for rental properties. It shows by some of the responses that some landlord have never considered the possibility that there was such a requirement. The Insurance Company's that I know of have always did a site investigation for compliance with Fire safety Devices such as records for Inspections of fire extinguishers, fire alarms, smoke and CO2 detectors, fire hydrants, sprinkler systems, etc. It would seem that meeting these requirements would not only seem beneficial in protecting one's investment, but would lower insurance cost.