Re: Here are details & link--NOTHING about case law

Re: Here are details & link--NOTHING about case law by Betty L. (Ca) on February 5, 2012 @15:03

“Occupant” means any person who is: (a) lawfully living or sleeping in a building or structure, if its intended
purpose is residential; or, (b) lawfully inside and lawfully utilizing the building or structure on a basis consistent
with the purpose for which it is lawfully intended and designed, if its intended purpose is nonresidential. What do you not understand, (b) is what is what the code refers to as 'occupant'. Are you so uncaring that you would not do the right thing and invest in the safety of your own property and the lives of your tenants because there is no law that mandates that you do it! How ridiculous you sound "I not doing it because it's not mandated by law" Check with your insurance company and see what they say? Some people just will not do the right thing unless they are force to do so. By the way if you had indeed did your research, you would have found that owner/occupied rentals not consisting of more than two units are exempt. Keep searching, you might learn something.

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In conflict with what Sara posted & reread the OP by Anonymous on February 5, 2012 @15:22	[ Reply ]

Sara posted this: "(Cal Courts have found that 'occupants' is related to those instances of spaces that are used for non living areas such as offices, business's, storage facilities, garages etc.)" What you posted above about "occupant" is in conflict with that. The original post referenced a tenant question about having to maintain the fire extinguisher, which the LL provided, because that "maintenance" was in the rental agreement he signed.

Re: In conflict with what Sara posted & reread the OP by Betty L. (Ca) on February 5, 2012 @16:17	[ Reply ]

How about you answering questions? Why don't you supply a fire extinguisher and maintain it for your tenants regardless of what the law or code requires? Why do you feel that it's the tenants responsibility to provide a fire extinguisher and not you? What happens when you have an electrical fire because of faulty wiring in your rental and a fire extinguisher could have contained the fire damage? What happens if the dryer vent line catches fire and you have no fire extinguisher to limit the damage? What happens if the oven catches fire and the damage could have been handled by a fire extinguisher? What happens if the grill on the deck catches your house or deck on fire and the lack of no fire extinguisher prevents the fire from being controlled? What happens when the lawnmower catches fire next to the garage because of a leaking fuel line? Do you thing that a twenty dollars fire extinguisher is too much trouble to provide? As you stated a great tenant is one who doesn't bother the landlord with such stuff! You would probably be the last one to find out your rental was on fire!

Re: In conflict with what Sara posted & reread the OP by Anonymous on February 5, 2012 @17:01	[ Reply ]

Betty, you must have misunderstood so many of the posts. The LL did supply a fire extinguisher. The tenant was asking if they had to comply with the rental agreement they signed, about having it checked every year.

Re: In conflict with what Sara posted & reread the