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DirecTV installed dish & coax w/o permission by Christopher D. Stover (FL) on May 6, 2012 @08:55

                              
Fellow landlords,
I'm sure at least one of you experienced this. My tenants transferred their DirecTV service. When DirecTV came to do the installation, they apparently told the tenants they couldn't use the existing coax so they rank new coax on the exterior of the house and drilled it through the exterior brick into multiple rooms of the home! In addition, they mounted the dish on the roof without my permission.

My lease agreement with the tenants specifically states:
Tenant shall not install, create or mount anything to the roof or the exterior of the Premises.

How have others dealt with this? I plan to call DirecTV, but I'm not sure what my desired outcome would be. I think I would have preferred the dish to be mounted on pole vice the roof. I also would have preferred they not run coax on the exterior, but what are the options? Run a whole new set of coax through the walls for DirecTV?
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Re: DirecTV installed dish & coax w/o permission by OK-LL on May 6, 2012 @09:10 [ Reply ]
It's BS that they can't use the existing lines. I built townhouses 5 years ago and the first installer tells me he can't use the existing cables but had to install new -- I insisted he hook up to the existing lines and it worked fine. This is some "policy" the servicer/provider cooked up to justify the install charge. I'd insist DirecTV remove and repair the roof mount and cable instrusion immediately, and then write up install instructions for your tenant. In my town, the installers won't install on any house unless you are the owner or can provide a permission letter from the owner -- my permission letter includes specific install instructions for the installer. Any deviation and we require immediate remediation. Most installer/providers have insurance to cover this damage.
Re: DirecTV installed dish & coax w/o permission by Tabby (GA) on May 6, 2012 @10:52 [ Reply ]
I added a clause to my lease that I make sure they initial that makes it clear that the dish is to be placed on a pole in the yard and they must connect to the coax connection provided on the outside of the house....Penalty is pay for repair of damage.

Learned this the hard way when the installer drilled many holes through the house and ran the coax all over the ground to each room.

Good luck.
Re: DirecTV installed dish & coax w/o permission by LL (CA) on May 6, 2012 @12:50 [ Reply ]
After a nightmare with Directv we have a clause in our lease that says dishes are NOT to be mounted on the house or fences and that they are to be mounted on a stand in the backyard - the tenant has to pay a monthly fee for that.

In the past I had a numbnut tenant who decided to get Directv and the installer drilled holes next to existing holes, ran cables across the front of a newly painted garage causing damage and even slung cable from front to back of house across the roof (completely against code). It took me days of work to get Directv to come out and fix some of the problems. The tenant paid for the rest of the damage to be repaired when she moved.

The tenant represented herself to the dish company as being the owner of the house and even signed a document to say that. When she complained about having to pay for the damage I pointed her to her lease about not making modifications to my house without written authorisation. I told her my contract is with you, if the dish company cost you money, you can sue them, your contract is with them.

You could have new coax installed yourself but that will not guarantee one of these cowboys will not rip it out (like they did to ours) and install their own anyway.
Re: DirecTV installed dish & coax w/o permission by Christopher D. Stover (FL) on May 7, 2012 @16:43 [ Reply ]
Thanks for all your inputs!

MrDan, you stated you use a multiplexer/diplexer outside. I like this idea because it would allow me to utilize the one set of coax already run in the house.

As for everyone else, what have you done? If you have a tenant who wants to install DirecTV, what do you do? Do you let the installer run new coax through the wall? Did you wire the house with two separate runs of coax, one for DirecTV and one for cable TV/internet? Do you use a diplexer as MrDan suggested?

Interested to know what other's solution to this dilemma is. Thanks!
Re: DirecTV installed dish & coax w/o permission by stewmac (PA) on August 5, 2012 @22:29 [ Reply ]
I had the same thing happen with Dish Network. We had cable that ran to two rooms on the first floor. We told the T not to run any additional cable. Well we discovered that they installed two additional cables on the second floor. The cable guy drilled a hole right through the siding and into the window trim in two different bedrooms. He also install a zillion clips with screws all through the siding. The cable ran around the entire house. Who does that. I contacted Dish Network got the run around that a private contractor did the install. So I contacted that guy and he said he did it and it is no big deal. Now have two holes drilled right through the house and so many screws with clips that siding will need to be replaced. I made the contractor put it in writing and will deduct it from the security deposit to replace the siding and repair and replace the window trim. I didn't hire the cable guy the tenant did.
Re: DirecTV installed dish & coax w/o permission by Alan Plutzik (California) on September 17, 2012 @21:35 [ Reply ]
I'm a lawyer. My law firm has brought a class action case against DIRECTV challenging its policy of making attachments on rooftops and in other common areas without obtaining permission directly from the landlord. I would like to talk with you. Please call or email me.





Alan Plutzik

Bramson, Plutzik, Mahler & Birkhaeuser, LLP

2125 Oak Grove Road, Suite 120

Walnut Creek, CA 94596

Telephone: 925/945-0200

email: aplutzik@bramsonplutzik.com
Re: DirecTV installed dish & coax w/o permission by Anonymous on May 7, 2013 @21:55 [ Reply ]
Not trying to stir up anything. I am a Directv Dealer and a licensed electrical contractor. The Federal Communications Commission has strict rules that prohibits landlords from using exclusive communication providers (only one provider company allowed), dish restrictions and wiring restrictions that could cause services to be disrupted. I do wall fish rewires but we charge for them. Most satellite companies do not charge for rewiring exteriorly.

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule

Now on the other hand, HD requires Solid copper (SC) RG6, in order to get true high def and dolby digital sound. Copper Clad Steel (CCS) cannot hold the bandwidth that solid copper can. Yes, copper clad does work but if you see them side by side or in my case on a signal meter then you will definately notice the difference. Now RG 59 wire will not carry a digital signal or HD signal whether it's solid copper or copper clad steel. Thanks!

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