New Home Owner, 25 Living with Long Time Friend wh

New Home Owner, 25 Living with Long Time Friend wh by Shane (Arizona ) on July 11, 2012 @15:00

Hey All,

New to this forum to seek advice for what I consider a unique landlord situation. I'm a new home owner (25 years old), bought my two Bedroom two bath 1500SQ home last October for which my long time good friend moved in right away. Mortgage before HOA is $950 and I'm charging him $450 + 50% utilities.

About 5-6 months ago he met a girl who has consistently stayed the night for the last 3-4 months, literally every night. She'll come over during the weekdays at around 9-10PM and leave in the morning before or shortly after I leave for work and will be over all day / night on the weekends. At first, I was letting it go hoping they would break up or it would work it self out. She was living with a roommate who she hated but has since moved back to her parents about 1.5 months ago. It is really starting to irritate me as I'm starting to not feel not as comfortable in my own home. She is nice and all, however it feels like I have a third roommate.... She does not contribute and they are very PDA friendly and most often in common areas of the house.

I know I need to step up and confront roommate, however I want to make this as least awkward as possible as we've been friends for years....What is the best way to approach this?

Something like this? "Hey, bro, I really like your girlfriend and all and it was cool for a while that she was staying here every night, however it's really starting to feel like we have a third roommate and this is not what I had in mind when I let you move in" OR I was thinking to let him know that Rent is going to be bumped up to $600 per month for two reasons, 1. I'm giving you to good of a deal relative to market rates (is the case for Scottsdale, AZ) AND you have your girlfriend staying the night every night which constitutes as a tenant in my opinion. I would probably be cool with it if he paid more rent, as it is now I feel taken advantage of.

I'm wanting to have this conversation by end of next week at the latest as it is starting to weigh heavy on me.

Thank you all very much for your time and wisdom.

Best,
Shane

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Re: New Home Owner, 25 Living with Long Time Friend wh by Bryan (Ia) on July 11, 2012 @15:04	[ Reply ]

You might think it is unique, but it is quite common. The simple answer is never to rent to a friend or relative. Additionally, renting a room in your home is also very bad idea. If you do decide to do these things, you must have a written lease that complies with your state's LL/T law. You can purchase one here. I you do not; you end up with mess like you have.

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Re: New Home Owner, 25 Living with Long Time Friend wh by The Dude (MN) on July 11, 2012 @15:07	[ Reply ]

He's a good friend? Lay into him then. Don't pussyfoot around it. If the issue is you want more rent, charge him more rent. If the underlying issue is you don't want the girl staying night after night, tell him that. It's hard to see what the real issue is here. You say you'd probably be cool if he paid another $150 a month, but I doubt that to be the case. Can you afford the place by yourself? If you can't, I'd just suck it up and not be bothered by this, because if you say something, he could be gone, then you could lose your house. If you can afford it, just talk to him and say this isn't what you had in mind when you let him move in.

Re: New Home Owner, 25 Living with Long Time Friend wh by Hari Seldon (Michigan) on July 11, 2012 @15:40	[ Reply ]

> I would probably be cool with it if he paid more rent, as it is now I feel taken advantage of. If you feel he's taking advantage of you now, what do you think will happen after the rent increase? Odds are, he (and his GF, who will probably turn into a raging biotch over this) will become even more of a pain in your a$$.

Re: New Home Owner, 25 Living with Long Time Friend wh by NY-LL on July 11, 2012 @16:15	[ Reply ]

The property owner should determine what the end result should be … The property owner (you), if able to manage the mortgage and expenses independent of the co-tenant roommate, should seek to remedy the awkward situation by setting a move-out date within the next three to six months. Do not pull the “It’s my house routine.” or “I’m doing you a favor because … routine.” (which will seem superior), if you are not able to afford the mortgage and expenses independent of the co-tenant roommate.) Approach the matter politely by making the move-out the co-tenant roommates own idea. Suggest to the co-tenant roommate that this may be in his own best interest, in order to provide more independence and privacy to manage his personal adult life. In the interim, maintain the relationship now and preserve the relationship for the future … The co-tenant roommate is really a friend/brother figure which does not require a written lease agreement. The co-tenant roommate rent should be increased due to the increased wear and tear, and utility use by the girlfriend -- more electric, water, etc. -- if the co-tenant roommate decides to remain.

Re: New Home Owner, 25 Living with Long Time Friend wh by Shane (Arizona) on July 11, 2012 @16:30	[ Reply ]

Thanks guys, appreciate the input and time. I'm going to be straight up and see what happens. I can easily afford mortgage solo, 25% of my after tax income. I'm going to send him a text and let him know we should discuss further this evening. "Hey bro, been meaning and hate to bring this up for a month or so but was hoping it would work itself out. I’m starting to feel a little crammed in our small house having Em over literally every night, it feels like we have a third roommate who does not pay rent. Nothing personal at all with her as I like her a lot. Do you think this is a fair situation for me? Lets discuss later tonight" This sound alright? Thanks again

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