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The Lease and the Confederate Flag - Landlord Forum thread 336897

The Lease and the Confederate Flag by Anonymous on July 3, 2015 @11:36

                              
My lease for my multi-family unit has an item:
  • No signs or stickers may be placed facing out of windows, and no signs or stickers with offensive/inappropriate words, phrases, or symbols may be affixed to vehicles parked in the common parking lot. Cost of towing a vehicle in violation of this rule will be borne by the tenant.
     Now, the problem is a conservative-but-totally-not-racist tenant who has, seemingly in the span of a single episode of The O'Reilley Factor, become a huge fan of the Confederate flag in the wake of the removal of it from the various state houses in the south. He has affixed stickers of the flag to his vehicle, which does habitually use the common parking lot of the multi-family unit.

     Given the flag's history, not even during the Civil War as the battle flag of the most un-patriotic entity to ever exist legitimately inside North America, but as the symbol that resurged in the 40's, 50's, and 60's as a symbol specifically against racial integration (read your history - virulent political racists Strom Thurmond and George Wallace made this flag popular again), and the fact that explaining this history has no effect on the emotions of this conservative-but-totally-not-racist, along with the fact that the tenants in this multi-family unit are also of different races, I believe I should be enforcing this offensive symbol provision against the Confederate flag sticker.

     I notified the tenant of the fact that the flag of a country who engaged in open war against the United States after seceding from the United States over their desire to keep certain races enslaved is going to be considered offensive under the lease (and got owned, decimated, humiliated, wrecked, destroyed, schooled, annihilated, what a bunch of total losers), because I'm warning him in advance to give him a chance to remedy the problem before I actually have the vehicle removed. As expected from his previous denial of history, he is standing on another incorrect interpretation of history - that his freedom of speech under the first amendment is being violated, and that, like the gun he probably (definitely) has stowed away in the floorboards under his bed, this northern agitator will have to "come and take it."

     I have already learned that these types of people, and the tenants they turn into, are essentially good little authoritarians and will immediately cower when anything is enforced against them, so I am pretty sure I will just have to tow his vehicle a single time before he drags his knuckles into the post-1960's, but I am curious how you would handle this type of person. He is effectively being belligerent about a small part of the lease, so I tend to expect further belligerence on other parts of the lease. My only problem with this is that this particular symbol has been effectively "re-classified" by popular opinion as more offensive in the past few weeks, but this tenant has only started using it in that timespan as well.
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Re: The Lease and the Confederate Flag by anon on July 3, 2015 @13:56 [ Reply ]
A nut job like that will enjoy pushing your buttons and arguing his rights in and out of a courtroom.
Just forget about it. He'll eventually move on to another cause.
Re: The Lease and the Confederate Flag by Katiekate (New York) on July 3, 2015 @14:09 [ Reply ]
It wasn't "reclassified". It has always been the symbol of slavery and the. Subsequent racism that happened at the same time and has remained a part of "Americana" we all try to not talk about. There is a very good reason that Nazis in Germany use that flag!


I would tell this tenant...pull that down today. Period. No flags!

I would follow it with evict notice on Monday if it is still there.

Re: The Lease and the Confederate Flag by Joel on July 3, 2015 @23:53 [ Reply ]
I think you are an possibly uninformed for getting into this highly stupid and volatile situation with your tenant, unless you enjoy this kind of political jousting with your tenants.
Re: The Lease and the Confederate Flag by altagracia on July 4, 2015 @08:10 [ Reply ]
Why are you wasting you time in this issue?
Re: The Lease and the Confederate Flag by Kevin on July 4, 2015 @11:18 [ Reply ]
I do not care one bit about the confederate flag, and as far as I am concerned I believe you should enforce your lease. But I also think this movement to remove the confederate flag because it represents racism is disingenuous at the least. If what it once stood for is reason enough to ban it then the Democrat party should also be disbanded for what they once stood for.

The Democrat party came to being for the sole purpose as to protect Slavery.
It was behind the start of the civil war as to protect the rights of the southern States to own and breed slaves. It created the Ku Klux Klan to become its terrorist arm. It passed discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws and fought every piece of civil rights legislation from the 1860’s to the 1960’s. It fought against anti-lynching laws. Its members were responsible for letting loose vicious dogs and turned skin-burning fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators and some brandished ax handles to prevent blacks from patronizing a restaurant. One said "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" and one tried to prevent desegregation of a Little Rock public school. And its members were the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Another said about blacks “…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ‘spawning… human beings who never should have been born.” was the founder of Planned Parenthood (operates the nation’s largest chain of abortion clinics and almost 80% of its facilities are located in minority neighborhoods.) was active with the Ku Klux Klan and the eugenics movement in the beginning of the twentieth century.

Re: The Lease and the Confederate Flag by Anonymous on July 6, 2015 @09:40 [ Reply ]
Jeez, you guys, total troll posting! Everything about it screams TROLL!!!

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