never signed lease or paid (squatter or tenant?)

never signed lease or paid (squatter or tenant?) by Karen (North Carolina ) on July 17, 2017 @03:20

I didn't see it clearly in the beginning but long story short, I made concessions and exceptions for the potential tenants, the more I did the more they asked for, by the time they go to the property (after telling me I should get there 1am and give them directions because they were lost after holding the property for 15 days even though other people were interested... they get to the house, and say oops forgot the money and the lease!"

I say no lease no money no keys they say "please let us park the uhaul here ?!"

They never left they moved there stuff inside and texted that they would meet me first thing then never did.

Then haggled me down when I tracked them down to sign this is a nightmare I'm done I will hire a property manager

((I can't edit title- people moved in property will not sign or pay I need them out. They started bull dozing me from the beginning but it was not obvious until they were inside the property and started haggling me down on rent and deposit. ))

Hindsight is 20/20. I realize now my mistakes: Holding rental property with out deposit or signed lease or any money what so ever.

The wife of the couple 23f and 23 m military put me on the spot several times.

Things I've tried to graciously provide but is turning and in fact turned into a nitpicking negotiating, bulldozing nightmare.

"Reduce the pet fee since one pet is emotional therapy but will not prove it"

"Let us paint (before even seeing the house it's recently been professionally painted for 2k)"

"Let us meet you in the middle of the night, give us directions for an hour, invite all our friends and bang on the door,oh we forgot the money, we didn't bring the signed lease, we couldn't find a printer, we don't want to sign the lease until we pay and didn't want to pay until we found out your a real person not a craigslist killer"

Everything screams (I'm an idiot me the op and they are entitled)

They've been in the house since 1am Saturday, can't get them to answer to meet up for the lease and payment, they promised they would but like everything else they just end up doing what they want.

When I called this evening they finally answered and instead of giving me a time to meet they say "we don't wanna pay the full month and want you to take off money from the deposit we have a list of discrepancies, and instead of 865 we want to pay 500"

I explained I already did the walk through with them every appliance is new, we did not provide a washer and had warned them that, now that is a bargaining chip for them.

I saw the writing on the wall and said "You've not paid any money you've not signed a lease and you've not stopped making demands-it's clear I'm not going to make you happy this isn't working"

He says "I need a week" but also cusses me out and threatens me that they haven't signed anything so he doesn't have to do "jack S----"

I say "please no hard feelings but this will never work you've not jumped through any of the hoops that tenants are supposed to and I've had to do every single thing what your asking me to do now is too much special treatment"

The house could pass a military inspection it was spotless ontop and behind appliances professionally cleaned.

They are not in the same reality... I know really shouldn't have let them move their stuff in but they were "please don't make us get a storage unit tonight just for one night" and he is a marine who just got back the beginning of the month, I didn't know things would get so out of hand but they kept pushing.

I ended the conversation by saying I might be able to give you 48 hour but I need you guys out because I really did hold the house for you and this has gotten out of hand, your not wanting to pay and your taking advantage of me (my stupidity in reality).

What do I do? I need to know my rights, I am getting a property manager but I would like to get them out since they have no intention of really paying and keep stalling.

I have his commands number but I do not know legally if they are squatters or what I have done. We only want them gone with out retaliating in the form of damage.

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Re: never signed lease or paid (squatter or tenant?) by Bill on July 17, 2017 @07:13	[ Reply ]

Right now, You need a lawyer. Not a property manager. I would get the police involved to document the event. Perhaps you might get lucky and the people will move. After you get them out, either get a property manager, or sell the property. I would be surprised if these Folks don't remove everything they can take. And destroy every room. before all is said and done. Never change rules that you as a property owner set.

Just a TROLL by Anonymous on July 17, 2017 @08:28	[ Reply ]

Really? Too many contradictions in your story!

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Re: never signed lease or paid (squatter or tenant?) by Anonymous on July 17, 2017 @09:46	[ Reply ]

How did they get in with no keys? How did you do a walk thru? You said they showed up at 1am with friends and they were lost? Did you do a background check? Too many holes in your story to believe!

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I can pick almost any lock

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Call the commanding officer by Anonymous on July 20, 2017 @04:18	[ Reply ]

Marines don't get to behave like this.

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