Re: Utilities question - Landlord Forum thread 357586

Re: Utilities question by Garry (Iowa) on May 26, 2018 @13:45

Need more info----- Is the lease M2M, or is it a term lease(from when, to when)? Did the lease say that the T was to put the utils in their name? Has the T reimbursed the LL for any of the utils they have used? Is this a big house, or just a small apartment? What are the Ts "issues", and are they ones that a LL can use to evict someone? I agree with you, that the LL cannot turn off the utils--- "FOR NOW". But there is a way to do it, depending on what the lease says.

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Re: Utilities question by G on May 26, 2018 @15:43	[ Reply ]

More info needed? What is the paint color of the rental? Is it two story? Is it hardwood floor carpeted or tile? Can the T touch his toes? Without the these answers, no one can give you the proper guidance.

Re: Utilities question by Marge (CO) on May 26, 2018 @17:09	[ Reply ]

From the post I gather, that the lease is VERBAL (and he says he's an experienced landlord...), long term (doesn't say how long). Tenant was told to put utilities in her name, she never did. She also never reimbursed the Landlord for anything. He went to repair something, and discovered, that there are at least 3 unauthorized people living there, and he wants them all out. It is a 2 bedroom, he does not specify whether a house, or an apartment, but obviously it has its own utility meters. The issues, according to that Landlord, are: unauthorized tenants, high utility bills - well, the poor guy got himself into an incredible mess. But the question was about the utilities, and I don't think that the Landlord has the legal right to turn them off, even though he is paying for everything, and is not getting reimbursed.

Re: Utilities question by Garry (Iowa) on May 26, 2018 @22:50	[ Reply ]

If it's a verbal lease, meaning nothing in writing, then I'm pretty sure it's a M2M lease, as you would need something in writing to make it a term lease(meaning a 6 mo. or 1 year lease). The LL should just give the T a 30 day notice to move, by May 30, to be out by June 30. The LL should cite the 3 unauthorized people living there, as the reason for the notice to move. As for the utils, as long as the T is on a M2M lease, any LL can give any tenant a 30 day notice of change of lease terms. In this case, the LL can write a separate letter, telling the T that the utils will be shut off as of July 1. The T needs to receive both of these letters by May 30, so the LL needs to send them out be certified and regular mail on next Tuesday, and also post a copy of the letters on their front door. If anything ends up in court, the T is going to have to PROVE they have a term lease, and that the LL was providing all the utils. And I'll bet they can't do that, unless they can show a written lease, signed by both parties. You're probably right. The LL messed up. and now he has to do things the LEGAL way, to get out of his mess.