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Re: Month to Month Lease, is it easier to evict? - Landlord Forum thread 147933

Re: Month to Month Lease, is it easier to evict? by Terry (ca) on November 30, 2007 @15:45

                              
Seems to me you may not understand eviction for non payment vs eviction / termination for non specific (or other specific) reasons...totally different processes.

WHY would you put in your agreement that rent is not considered late until the 6th of the month? Please don't confuse charging late fees date with late rent date. If you use a solid rental agreement...you should still be able to serve on the 2nd even if you don't charge late fees until the 6th..and I think charging late fees no later than the 4th is a better idea. And serving 3-day also no later than the 4th.

What city are the rentals in?

A MTM puts the LL in charge more. You can terminate without stating a reason for the "gray" areas that are typically hard to prove in court (they nag you to death, disturb others, etc). And you can change any terms any time you want with just a 30 day notice in most cases. Fixed term leases protect TENANTS more than LL's, especially in CA. People move if/when they want/have to period..fact of life.

Eviction for non payment is started using a CA law compliant 3-day pay/quit notice and filing can be done immediately after that 3-day legally expires. Termination w/o cause requires 30 or 60 day notice (depending on how long they have lived there or longer if Sec 8) and then if they don't move, same UD process.

BUT none of this applies if you are in a rent control city..where is the rental?

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Re: Month to Month Lease, is it easier to evict? by Eric (CA) on November 30, 2007 @16:15 [ Reply ]
"Seems to me you may not understand eviction for non payment vs eviction / termination for non specific (or other specific) reasons...totally different processes." This is a true statement, this is my first rental. Can I just notify her that I am not renewing the lease and she has 30 days to vacate? Also, this is my house, not an apartment complex.

The property is in Brentwood in Contra Costa County (Bay Area) I called the City to find out about rent control, etc based on your initial reply.

I used the standard LPA month to month template which states rent is not officially late until after the 5th of the month. I thought that was standard...I believe I had a grace period when I used to rent. Although I may be misintepreting the agreement as written.

She has lived in the house since April and has been a pretty good tennant so far. I believe we also agreed on a 60 day notice for discontinuing the lease, but I am not sure if I only made that stipulation for her notice, or mine as well.

Thanks again.

    Re: Month to Month Lease, is it easier to evict? by Terry (ca) on November 30, 2007 @16:48 [ Reply ]
    Eric..I'm sorry but your posts are not making the situation any clearer.

    Is the tenant current on the rent? Are you looking to evict for non payment or not?

    When you called the City what did they say about rent OR eviction control in your area?

    Using a "standard" agreement is not always the best approach..using one customized to YOUR state and local laws is always best.

    I have no idea what some of your comments mean such as, " I believe we also agreed on a 60 day notice for discontinuing the lease, but I am not sure if I only made that stipulation for her notice, or mine as well.". First off, WHAT IS IN WRITING? How can you not be sure what the agreement states?

    Do you or do you not have a MTM rental agreement in place? OR is it a fixed term LEASE?

    Next, WHY would you require 60 day notice to terminate a MTM rental agreement in writing unless it is mandated by state law (only if they lived there more than a year)?

    If she has been a "good tenant so far" since April, why are you asking about late payments and eviction?

    There is NO STANDARD as far as when rent is legally late. EVERYTHING in this business is guided by STATE and LOCAL laws period...so again...I explained the general STATE law to you already...have no idea why you'd put in place something that further restricted you as a LL.

    Since most of CA does NOT mandate any grace period other than if the due date is on a holiday or weekend...most LL's I know charge late fees and start eviction on the 4th of the month or so.

Re: Month to Month Lease, is it easier to evict? by lucille zabel (ca) on December 17, 2008 @03:55 [ Reply ]
I want to get rid of a couple in Los Angeles County where there is NO rent control. They have been good paying tenants but the wife attacked another tenant causing a red eye and scratches. Police were called, it became a "he said she said," but I know from the other tenants that it was caused by the wife of this couple over parking.

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